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                        <seg rend="16px"> JUNE 1, 1833. </seg>
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                        <seg rend="15px">JOURNAL OF CONVERSATIONS WITH <persName>LORD BYRON</persName>. <lb/> BY
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                    <p xml:id="no.VIII-1">
                        <hi rend="small-caps">How</hi> much has <persName key="LdByron">Byron</persName> to unlearn
                        ere he can hope for peace! Then he is proud of his false knowledge. I call it false,
                        because it neither makes him better nor happier, and true knowledge ought to do the former,
                        though I admit it cannot the latter. We are not relieved by the certainty that we have an
                        incurable disease; on the contrary, we cease to apply remedies, and so let the evil
                        increase. So it is with human nature: by believing ourselves devoted to selfishness, we
                        supinely sink into its withering and inglorious thraldom; when, by encouraging kindly
                        affections, without analyzing their source, we strengthen and fix them in the heart, and
                        find their genial influence extending around, contributing to the happiness and well-being
                        of others, and reflecting back some portion to ourselves.
                            <persName>Byron&#8217;s</persName> heart is running to waste for want of being allowed
                        to expend itself on his fellow-creatures; it is naturally capacious, and teeming with
                        affection; but the worldly wisdom he has acquired has checked its course, and it preys on
                        his own happiness by reminding him continually of the aching void in his breast. With a
                        contemptible opinion of human nature, he requires a perfectibility in the persons to whom
                        he attaches himself, that those who think most highly of it never expect: he gets easily
                        disgusted, and when once the persons fall short of his expectations, his feelings are
                        thrown back on himself, and, in their re-action, create new bitterness. I have remarked to
                            <persName>Byron</persName> that it strikes me as a curious anomaly, that he, who thinks
                        ill of mankind, should require more from it than do those who think well of it <hi
                            rend="italics">en masse</hi>; and that each new disappointment at a discovery of
                        baseness sends him back to solitude with some of the feelings with which a savage creature
                        would seek its lair; while those who judge it more favourably, instead of feeling
                        bitterness at the disappointments we must all experience, more or less, when we have the
                        weakness to depend wholly on others for happiness, smile at their own delusion, and blot
                        out, as with a sponge, from memory that such things were, and were most sweet while we
                        believed them, and open a fresh account, a new leaf in the ledger of life, always indulging
                        in the hope that it may not be balanced like the last. We should judge others not by self,
                        for that is deceptive, but by their general conduct and character. We rarely do this,
                        because that with <hi rend="italics"><foreign>le besoin d'aimer</foreign></hi>, which all
                        ardent minds have, we bestow our affections on the first person that chance throws in our
                        path, and endow them with every good and noble quality, which qualities were unknown to
                        them, and only existed in our own imaginations. We <note place="foot">
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                            <p xml:id="LBVII.143-n1" rend="center"> * Continued from No. cxlvii. p. 518 </p>
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                        <pb xml:id="LBVII.144"/> discover, when too late, our own want of discrimination; but,
                        instead of blaming ourselves, we throw the whole censure on those whom we had overrated,
                        and declare war against the whole species because we had chosen ill, and &#8220;<q>loved
                            not wisely, but too well.</q>&#8221; When such disappointments occur,&#8212;and, alas!
                        they are so frequent as to enure us to them,&#8212;if we were to reflect on all the
                        antecedent conduct and modes of thinking of those in whom we had &#8220;<q>garnered up our
                            hearts,</q>&#8221; we should find that they were in general consistent, and that we had
                        indulged erroneous expectations, from having formed too high an estimate of them, and
                        consequently were disappointed. A modern writer has happily observed that &#8220;<q>the
                            sourest disappointments are made out of our sweetest hopes, as the most excellent
                            vinegar is made from damaged wine.</q>&#8221; We have all proved that hope ends but in
                        frustration, but this should only give us a more humble opinion of our own powers of
                        discrimination, instead of making us think ill of human nature: we may believe that there
                        exists goodness, disinterestedness, and affection in the world, although we have not had
                        the good fortune to encounter them in the persons on whom we had lavished our regard. This
                        is the best, because it is the safest and most consolatory philosophy; it prevents our
                        thinking ill of our species, and precludes that corroding of our feelings which is the
                        inevitable result; for as we all belong to the family of human nature, we cannot think ill
                        of it without deteriorating our own. If we have had the misfortune to meet with some
                        persons whose ingratitude and baseness might serve to lower our opinion of our
                        fellow-creatures, have we not encountered others whose nobleness, generosity, and truth
                        might redeem them? A few such examples,&#8212;nay, one alone,&#8212; such as I have had the
                        happiness to know, has taught me to judge favourably of mankind; and
                            <persName>Byron</persName>, with all his scepticism as to the perfectibility of human
                        nature, allowed that the person to whom I allude was an exception to the rule of the belief
                        he had formed as to selfishness or worldly-mindedness being the spring of action in
                        man.</p>

                    <p xml:id="no.VIII-2"> The grave has closed over <hi rend="italics">him</hi> who shook
                            <persName key="LdByron">Byron&#8217;s</persName> scepticism in perfect goodness, and
                        established for ever my implicit faith in it; but, in the debts of gratitude engraved in
                        deep characters on memory, the impression his virtues have given me of human nature is
                        indelibly registered,&#8212;an impression of which his conduct was the happiest
                        illustration, as the recollection of it must ever be the antidote to misanthropy. We have
                        need of such examples to reconcile us to the heartless ingratitude that all have, in a
                        greater or less degree, been exposed to, and which is so calculated to disgust us with our
                        species. How, then, must the heart reverence the memory of those who, in life, spread the
                        shield of their goodness between us and sorrow and evil, and, even in death, have left us
                        the hallowed recollection of their virtues, to enable us to think well of our
                        fellow-creatures! <pb xml:id="LBVII.145"/>
                        <q>
                            <lg xml:id="LBVIII.145-a">
                                <l> &#8220;Of the rich legacies the dying leave,</l>
                                <l> Remembrance of their virtues is the beet.&#8221;</l>
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                        </q>
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                    <p xml:id="no.VIII-3"> We are as posterity to those who have gone before us&#8212;the <hi
                            rend="italics"><foreign>avant-coureurs</foreign></hi> on that journey that wo must all
                        undertake. It is permitted us to speak of absent friends with the honest warmth of
                        commendatory truth; then surely we may claim that privilege for the dead,&#8212;a privilege
                        that every grateful heart must pant to establish, when the just tribute we pay to departed
                        worth is but as the outpourings of a spirit that is overpowered by its own intensity, and
                        whose praise or blame falls equally unregarded on &#8220;<q>the dull cold ear of
                        death.</q>&#8221; They who are in the grave cannot be flattered; and if their qualities
                        were such as escaped the observance of the public eye, are not those who, in the shade of
                        domestic privacy, had opportunities of appreciating them, entitled to one of the few
                        consolations left to survivors&#8212;that of offering the homage of admiration and praise
                        to virtues that were beyond all praise, and goodness that, while in existence, proved a
                        source of happiness, and, in death, a consolation, by the assurance they have given of
                        meeting their reward?</p>

                    <p xml:id="no.VIII-4">
                        <persName key="LdByron">Byron</persName> said to-day that he had met, in a French writer,
                        an idea that had amused him very much, and that he thought had as much truth as originality
                        in it: he quoted the passage, <q><foreign>&#8220;La curiosit&#233; est suicide de sa
                                nature, et l'amour n'est que la curiosit&#233;.&#8221;</foreign></q> He laughed,
                        and rubbed his hands, and repeated, &#8220;<q>Yes, the Frenchman is right. Curiosity kills
                            itself; and love is only curiosity, as is proved by its end.</q>&#8221;</p>


                    <p xml:id="no.VIII-5"> I told <persName key="LdByron">Byron</persName> that it was in vain that
                        he affected to believe what he repeated, as I thought too well of him to imagine him to be
                        serious.</p>

                    <p xml:id="no.VIII-6"> &#8220;<q>At all events,</q>&#8221; said <persName key="LdByron"
                            >Byron</persName>, &#8220;<q>you must admit that, of all passions, love is the most
                            selfish. It begins, continues, and ends in selfishness. Who ever thinks of the
                            happiness of the object apart from his own, or who attends to it? While the passion
                            continues, the lover wishes the object of his attachment happy, because, were she
                            visibly otherwise, it would detract from his own pleasures. The French writer
                            understood mankind well, who said that they resembled the grand Turk in an opera, who,
                            quitting his sultana for another, replied to her tears, <q><foreign>&#8216;Dissimulez
                                    votre peine, et respectez mes plaisirs.&#8217;</foreign></q> This,</q>&#8221;
                        continued Byron, &#8220;<q>is but too true a satire on men; for when love is over, <q>
                                <lg xml:id="LBVIII.145-b">
                                    <l> &#8216;A few years older,</l>
                                    <l> Ah! how much colder</l>
                                    <l> He could behold her</l>
                                    <l> For whom he sighed!&#8217;</l>
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                            </q>
                        </q>
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                    <p xml:id="no.VIII-7"> &#8220;<q>Depend on it my doggrel rhymes have more truth than most that
                            I have written. I have been told that love never exists without jealousy; if this be
                            true, it proves that love must be founded on selfishness, for jealousy surely never
                            proceeds from any other feeling than selfishness. We see that the person we like is
                            pleased and happy in the society of some one else, and we prefer to see her unhappy
                            with us than to allow <pb xml:id="LBVII.146"/> her to enjoy it: is not this selfish?
                            Why is it,</q>&#8221; continued <persName key="LdByron">Byron</persName>,
                            &#8220;<q>that lovers are at first only happy in each other&#8217;s society? It is that
                            their mutual flattery and egotism gratify their vanity; and not finding this stimulus
                            elsewhere, they become dependent on each other for it. When they get better acquainted,
                            and have exhausted all their compliments, without the power of creating or feeling any
                            new illusions, or even continuing the old, they no longer seek each other&#8217;s
                            presence from preference; habit alone draws them together, and they drag on a chain
                            that is tiresome to both, but which often neither has the courage to break. We have all
                            a certain portion of love in our natures, which portion we invariably bestow on the
                            object that most charms us, which as invariably is&#8212;self; and though some degree
                            of love may be extended to another, it is only because that other administers to our
                            vanity; and the sentiment is but a reaction,&#8212;a sort of electricity that emits the
                            sparks with which we are charged to another body;&#8212;and when the retorts lose their
                            power&#8212;which means, in plain sense, when the flattery of the recipient no longer
                            gratifies us&#8212;and yawning, that fearful abyss in love, is visible, the passion is
                            over. Depend on it (continued <persName>Byron</persName>) the only love that never
                            changes its object is self-love; and the disappointments it meets with make a more
                            lasting impression than all others.</q>&#8221;</p>

                    <p xml:id="no.VIII-8"> I told <persName key="LdByron">Byron</persName> that I expected him
                        to-morrow to disprove every word he had uttered to-day. He laughed, and declared that his
                        profession of faith was contained in the verses &#8220;<q>Could love for ever;</q>&#8221;
                        that he wished he could think otherwise, but so it was.</p>

                    <p xml:id="no.VIII-9">
                        <persName key="LdByron">Byron</persName> affects scepticism in love and friendship, and yet
                        is, I am persuaded, capable of making great sacrifices for both. He has an unaccountable
                        passion for misrepresenting his own feelings and motives, and exaggerates his defects more
                        than any enemy could do: he is often angry because we do not believe all he says against
                        himself, and would be, I am sure, delighted to meet some one credulous enough to give
                        credence to all he asserts or insinuates with regard to his own misdoings.</p>

                    <p xml:id="no.VIII-10"> If <persName key="LdByron">Byron</persName> were not a great poet, the
                        charlatanism of affecting to be a Satanic character, in this our matter-of-fact nineteenth
                        century, would be very amusing: but when the genius of the man is taken into account, it
                        appears too ridiculous, and one feels mortified at finding that he, who could elevate the
                        thoughts of his readers to the empyrean, should fall below the ordinary standard of
                        every-day life, by a vain and futile attempt to pass for something that all who know him
                        rejoice that he is not; while, by his sublime genius and real goodness of heart, which are
                        made visible every day, he establishes claims on the admiration and sympathy of mankind
                        that few can resist. If he knew his own power, he would disdain such unworthy means of
                        attracting attention, and trust to his merit for commanding it. </p>

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                    <p xml:id="no.VIII-11"> &#8220;<q>I know not when I have been so much interested and amused,
                            (said <persName key="LdByron">Byron</persName>,) as in the perusal of <persName
                                key="CoDorsa">&#8213;</persName> journal: it is one of the choicest productions I
                            ever read, and is astonishing as being written by a minor, as I find he was under age
                            when he penned it. The most piquant vein of pleasantry runs through it; the
                            ridicules&#8212;and they are many&#8212;of our dear compatriots are touched with the
                            pencil of a master; but what pleases me most is, that neither the reputation of man nor
                            woman is compromised, nor any disclosures made that could give pain. He has admirably
                            penetrated the secret of English ennui, (continued <persName>Byron</persName>,)&#8212;a
                            secret that is one to the English only, as I defy any foreigner, blessed with a common
                            share of intelligence, to come in contact with them without discovering it. The English
                            know that they are <hi rend="italics"><foreign>ennuy&#233;s</foreign></hi>, but vanity
                            prevents their discovering that they are <hi rend="italics">
                                <foreign>ennuyeux</foreign></hi>, and they will be little disposed to pardon the
                            person who enlightens them on this point. <persName>&#8213; &#8213;</persName> ought to
                            publish this work (continued <persName>Byron</persName>), for two reasons: the first,
                            that it will be sure to get known that he has written a piquant journal, and people
                            will imagine it to be a malicious libel, instead of being a playful satire, as the
                            English are prone to fancy the worst, from a consciousness of not meriting much
                            forbearance; the second reason is, that the impartial view of their foibles, taken by a
                            stranger who cannot be actuated by any of the little jealousies that influence the
                            members of their own coteries, might serve to correct them, though I fear <hi
                                rend="italics"><foreign>reflexion faite</foreign></hi> there is not much hope of
                            this. It is an extraordinary anomaly, (said <persName>Byron</persName>,) that people
                            who are really naturally inclined to good, as I believe the English are, and who have
                            the advantages of a better education than foreigners receive, should practise more
                            ill-nature and display more heartlessness than the inhabitants of any other country.
                            This is all the effect of the artificial state of society in England, and the exclusive
                            system has increased the evils of it ten-fold. We accuse the French of frivolity,
                            (continued <persName>Byron</persName>,) because they are governed by <hi rend="italics"
                                > fashion</hi>; but this extends only to their dress, whereas the English allow it
                            to govern their pursuits, habits, and modes of thinking and acting: in short, it is the
                            Alpha and Omega of all they think, do, or will: their society, residences, nay, their
                            very friends, are chosen by this criterion, and old and tried friends, wanting its
                            stamp, are voted <hi rend="italics"><foreign>de trop</foreign></hi>. Fashion admits
                            women of more than dubious reputations, and well-born men with none, into circles where
                            virtue and honour, not <hi rend="italics">a-la-mode</hi>, might find it difficult to
                            get placed; and if (on hearing the reputation of Lady this, or Mrs. that, or rather
                            want of reputation, canvassed over by their associates) you ask why they are received,
                            you will be told it is because they are seen everywhere&#8212;they are the
                            fashion.&#8212;I have known (continued <persName>Byron</persName>) men and women in
                            London received in the first circles, who, by their birth, talents, or manners, had no
                            one claim to such a distinction, merely because they had been seen in one or two
                            houses, to which, by some manoeuvring, they got the <hi rend="italics"
                            >entr&#233;e</hi>; but <pb xml:id="LBVII.148"/> I must add, they were not remarkable
                            for good looks, or superiority in any way, for if they had been, it would have elicited
                            attention to their want of other claims, and closed the doors of fashion against them.
                            I recollect, (said <persName>Byron</persName>,) on my first entering fashionable life,
                            being surprised at the (to me) unaccountable distincions I saw made between ladies
                            placed in peculiar and precisely similar situations. I have asked some of the fair
                            leaders of fashon, <q>&#8216;Why do you exclude Lady &#8213;, and admit Lady &#8213;,
                                as they are both in the same scrape?&#8217;</q> With that amiable indifference to
                            cause and effect that distinguishes the generality of your sex, the answer has
                            invariably been, <q>&#8216;Oh! we admit Lady &#8213; because all our set receive her;
                                and exclude Lady &#8213; because they will not.&#8217;</q> I have pertinaciously
                            demanded, <q>&#8216;Well, but you allow their claims are equal?&#8217;</q> and the
                            reply has been, <q>&#8216;Certainly; and we believe the excluded lady to be the better
                                of the two.&#8217;</q>
                            <hi rend="italics"><foreign>Mais que voulez-vous?</foreign></hi> she is not received,
                            and the other is; it is all chance or luck; and this (continued
                                <persName>Byron</persName>) is the state of society in London, and such the line of
                            demarcation drawn between the pure and the pure, when chance or luck, as Lady &#8213;
                            honestly owned to me, decided whether a woman lost her caste or not. I am not much of a
                            prude, (said <persName>Byron</persName>,) but I declare that, for the general good, I
                            think that all women who had forfeited their reputations ought to lose their places in
                            society; but this rule ought never to admit of an exception: it becomes an injustice
                            and hardship when it does, and loses all effect as a warning or preventive. I have
                            known young married women, when cautioned by friends on the probability of losing caste
                            by such or such a step, quote the examples of Lady this, or Mrs. that, who had been
                            more imprudent, (for imprudence is the new name for guilt in England,) and yet that one
                            saw these ladies received everywhere, and vain were precepts with such examples. People
                            may suppose (continued <persName>Byron</persName>) that I respect not morals, because
                            unfortunately I have sometimes violated them: perhaps from this very circumstance I
                            respect them the more, as we never value riches until our prodigality has made us feel
                            their loss; and a lesson of prudence coming from him who had squandered thousands,
                            would have more weight than whole pages written by one who had not personal experience:
                            so I maintain that persons who have <hi rend="italics"> erred</hi> are most competent
                            to point out errors. It is my respect for morals that makes me so indignant against its
                            vile substitute cant, with which I wage war, and this the good-natured world chooses to
                            consider as a sign of my wickedness. We are all the creatures of circumstance,
                            (continued <persName>Byron</persName>;) the greater part of our errors are caused, if
                            not excused, by events and situations over which we have had little control: the world
                            see the faults, but they see not what led to them: therefore I am always lenient to
                            crimes that have brought their own punishment while I am little disposed to pity those
                            who think they atone for their own sins by exposing those of others, and add cant and
                            hypocrisy to the catalogue of their vices. Let not a woman who has gone astray, <pb
                                xml:id="LBVII.149"/> without detection, affect to disdain a less fortunate though
                            not less culpable female. She who is unblemished should pity her who has fallen, and
                            she whose conscience tells her she is not spotless should show forbearance but it
                            enrages me to see women whose conduct is, or has been, infinitely more blameable than
                            that of the persons they denounce affecting a prudery towards others that they had not
                            in the hour of need for themselves. It was this forbearance towards her own sex that
                            charmed me in <persName key="LyMelbo">Lady Melbourne</persName>: she had always some
                            kind interpretation for every action that would admit of one, and pity or silence when
                            aught else was impracticable.</q>&#8221; </p>

                    <p xml:id="no.VIII-12"> &#8220;<q><persName>Lady &#8213;</persName>, beautiful and spotless
                            herself, always struck me as wanting that pity she could so well afford. Not that I
                            ever thought her ill-natured or spiteful; but I thought there was a certain severity in
                            her demarcations, that her acknowledged purity rendered less necessary. Do you remember
                            my lines in the <name type="title" key="LdByron.Giaour">Giaour</name>, ending
                            with&#8212; <q>
                                <lg xml:id="LBVIII.149-a">
                                    <l> No: gayer insects fluttering by</l>
                                    <l> Ne&#8217;er droop the wing o&#8217;er those that die;</l>
                                    <l> And lovelier things have mercy shown</l>
                                    <l> To every failing but their own;</l>
                                    <l> And every woe a tear can claim</l>
                                    <l> Except an erring sister&#8217;s shame.</l>
                                </lg>
                            </q>
                        </q>
                    </p>

                    <p xml:id="no.VIII-13"> &#8220;<q>These lines were suggested by the conduct I witnessed in
                            London from women to their erring acquaintances&#8212;a conduct that led me to draw the
                            conclusion, that their hearts are formed of less penetrable stuff than those of
                            men.</q>&#8221; </p>

                    <p xml:id="no.VIII-14">
                        <persName key="LdByron">Byron</persName> has not lived sufficiently long in England, and
                        has left it at too young an age, to be able to form an impartial and just estimate of his
                        compatriots. He was a busy actor, more than a spectator, in the circles which have given
                        him an unfavourable impression; and his own passions were, at that period, too much excited
                        to permit his reason to be unbiassed in the opinions he formed. In his hatred of what he
                        calls cant and hypocrisy, he is apt to denounce as such all that has the air of severity;
                        and which, though often painful in individual cases, is, on the whole, salutary for the
                        general good of society. This error of <persName>Byron&#8217;s</persName> proceeds from a
                        want of actual personal observation, for which opportunity has not been afforded him, as
                        the brief period of his residence in England, after he had arrived at an age to judge, and
                        the active part he took in the scenes around him, allowed him not to acquire that perfect
                        knowledge of society, manners, and customs which is necessary to correct the prejudices
                        that a superficial acquaintance with it is so apt to engender, even in the most acute
                        observer, but to which a powerful imagination, prompt to jump at conclusions without
                        pausing to trace cause and effect, is still more likely to fall into.
                            <persName>Byron</persName> sees not that much of what he calls the usages of cant and
                        hypocrisy are the fences that <pb xml:id="LBVIII.150"/> protect propriety, and that they
                        cannot be invaded without exposing what it is the interest of all to preserve. Had he been
                        a calm looker on, instead of an impassioned actor in the drama of English fashionable life,
                        he would probably have taken a less harsh view of all that has so much excited his ire, and
                        felt the necessity of many of the restraints which fettered him.</p>

                    <p xml:id="no.VIII-15"> A two years' residence in Greece, with all the freedom and personal
                        independence that a desultory rambling life admits of and gives a taste for,&#8212;in a
                        country where civilization has so far retrogarded that its wholesome laws, as well as its
                        refinements, have disappeared, leaving license to usurp the place of liberty,&#8212;was
                        little calculated to prepare a young man of three-and-twenty for the conventional habits
                        and restraints of that artificial state of society which extreme civilization and
                        refinement beget. No wonder then that it soon became irksome to him, and that, like the
                        unbroken courser of Arabia, when taken from the deserts where he had sported in freedom, he
                        spurned the puny meshes which ensnared him, and pined beneath the trammels that intercepted
                        his liberty.</p>

                    <p xml:id="no.VIII-16">
                        <persName key="LdByron">Byron</persName> returned to England in his twenty-third year, and
                        left it before he had completed his twenty-eighth, soured by disappointments and rendered
                        reckless by a sense of injuries. &#8220;<q>He who fears not, is to be feared,</q>&#8221;
                        says the proverb; and <persName>Byron</persName>, wincing under all the obloquy which
                        malice and envy could inflict, fell that its utmost malignity could go no farther, and
                        became fixed in a fearless braving of public opinion, which a false spirit of vengeance led
                        him to indulge in, turning the genius, that could lave achieved the noblest ends, into the
                        means of accomplishing those which were unworthy of if. His attacks on the world are like
                        the war of the Titans against the Gods,&#8212;the weapons he aims fall back on limself. He
                        feels that he has allowed sentiments of pique to influence and deteriorate his works; and
                        that the sublime rassages in them, that now appear like gleams of sunshine flitting across
                        the clouds hat sometimes obscure the bright luminary, might have been one unbroken blaze of
                        light, had not worldly resentment and feelings dimmed their lustre.</p>

                    <p xml:id="no.VIII-17"> This consciousness of misapplied genius has made itself felt in
                            <persName key="LdByron">Byron</persName>, and will yet lead him to redeem the injustice
                        he has done it; and when he has won the guerdon of the world&#8217;s applause, and
                        satisfied that craving for celebrity which consumes him, reconciled to that world, and at
                        peace with himself, he may yet win as much esteem for the man as he has hitherto elicited
                        admiration for the poet. To satisfy <persName>Byron</persName>, the admiration must be
                        unqualified; and, as I have told him, this depends on himself: he has only to choose a
                        subject for his muse, in which not only received opinions are not wounded, but morality is
                        inculcated; and his glowing genius, no longer tarnished by the stains that have previously
                        blemished it, will shine forth with a splendour, and ensure <pb xml:id="LBVII.151"/> that
                        universal applause, which will content even his ambitious and aspiring nature. He wants
                        some one to tell him what he might do, what he ought to do, and what so doing he would
                        become, I have told him; but I have not sufficient weight or influence with him to make my
                        representations effective; and the task would be delicate and difficult for a male friend
                        to undertake, as <persName>Byron</persName> is pertinacious in refusing: to admit that his
                        works have failed in morality, though in his heart I am sure he feels it.</p>

                    <p xml:id="no.VIII-18"> Talking of some one who was said to have fallen in love, &#8220;<q>I
                            suspect (said <persName key="Byron">Byron</persName>) that he must be indebted to your
                            country for this phrase, <q>&#8216;falling in love;&#8217;</q> it is expressive and
                            droll: they also say falling ill; and, as both are involuntary, and, in general,
                            equally calamitous, the expressions please me. Of the two evils, the falling ill seems
                            to me to be the least; at all events I would prefer it; for as, according to
                            philosophers, pleasure consists in the absence of pain, the sensations of returning
                            health (if one does recover) must be agreeable; but the recovery from love is another
                            affair, and resembles the awaking from an agreeable dream. Hearts are often only lent,
                            when they are supposed to be given away (continued <persName>Byron</persName>); and are
                            the loans for which people exact the most usurious interest. When the debt is called
                            in, the borrower, like all other debtors, feels little obligation to the lender, and,
                            having refunded the principal, regrets the interest he has paid. You see (said
                                <persName>Byron</persName>) that, <hi rend="italics">
                                <foreign>&#224; l'Anglaise</foreign></hi>, I have taken a mercantile view of the
                            tender passion; but I must add that, in closing the accounts, they are seldom fairly
                            balanced, <q><foreign>&#8216;e ci&#242; sa &#8217;l tuo dottore.&#8217;</foreign></q>
                            There is this difference between the Italians and others, (said
                                <persName>Byron</persName>,) that the end of love is not with them the beginning of
                            hatred, which certainly is, in general, the case with the English, and, I believe, the
                            French: this may be accounted for from their having less vanity; which is also the
                            reason why they have less ill-nature in their compositions, for vanity, being always on
                            the <hi rend="italics"><foreign>qui vive</foreign></hi>, up in arms, ready to resent
                            the least offence offered to it, precludes good temper.&#8221; </q>
                    </p>

                    <p xml:id="no.VIII-19"> I asked <persName key="LdByron">Byron</persName> if his partiality for
                        the Italians did not induce him to overlook other and obvious reasons for their not
                        beginning to hate when they ceased to love: first, the attachments were of such long
                        duration that age arrived to quell angry feelings, and the gradations were so slow, from
                        the first sigh of love to the yawn of expiring affection, as to be almost imperceptible to
                        the parties; and the system of domesticating in Italy established a habit that rendered
                        them necessary to each other. Then the slavery of <hi rend="italics">serventism</hi>, the
                        jealousies, carried to an extent that is unknown in England, and which exists longer than
                        the passion that is supposed to excite, if not excuse, them, may tend to reconcile lovers
                        to the exchange of friendship for love; and, rejoicing in their recovered liberty, they are
                        more disposed to indulge feelings of complacency than hatred.</p>
                    <pb xml:id="LBVIII.152"/>

                    <p xml:id="no.VIII-20">
                        <persName key="LdByron">Byron</persName> said, &#8220;<q>Whatever may be the cause, they
                            have reason to rejoice in the effect; and one is never afraid in Italy of inviting
                            people together who have been known to have once had warmer feelings than friendship
                            towards each other, as is the case in England, where, if persons under such
                            circumstances were to meet, angry glances and a careful avoidance of civility would
                            mark their kind sentiments towards each other.</q>&#8221;</p>

                    <p xml:id="no.VIII-21"> I asked <persName key="LdByron">Byron</persName> if what he attributed
                        to the effects of wounded vanity might not proceed from other and better feelings, at least
                        on the part of women? Might not shame and remorse be the cause? The presence of the man who
                        had caused their dereliction from duty and virtue calling up both, could not be otherwise
                        than painful and humiliating to women who were not totally destitute of delicacy and
                        feeling; and that this most probably was the cause of the coldness he observed between
                        persons of opposite sexes in society.</p>

                    <p xml:id="no.VIII-22"> &#8220;<q>You are always thinking of and reasoning on the <hi
                                rend="italics">English</hi>, (answered <persName key="LdByron">Byron</persName>:)
                            mind I refer to Italians, and with them there can be neither shame nor remorse,
                            because, in yielding to love, they do not believe they are violating either their duty
                            or religion; consequently a man has none of the reproach to dread that awaits him in
                            England when a lady&#8217;s conscience is <hi rend="italics"
                            >awakened</hi>,&#8212;which, by the by, I have observed it seldom is, until <hi
                                rend="italics">affection</hi> is laid asleep, which (continued
                                <persName>Byron</persName>) is very convenient to herself, but very much the
                            reverse to the unhappy man.</q>&#8221; </p>

                    <p xml:id="no.VIII-23"> I am sure that much of what <persName key="LdByron">Byron</persName>
                        said in this conversation was urged to vex me. Knowing my partiality to England and all
                        that is English, he has a childish delight in exciting me into an argument; and as I as yet
                        know nothing of Italy, except through books, he takes advantage of his long residence in,
                        and knowledge of the country, to vaunt the superiority of its customs and usages, which I
                        never can believe he prefers to his own. A wish of vexing or astonishing the English is, I
                        am persuaded, the motive that induces him to attack <persName key="WiShake1616"
                            >Shakspeare</persName>; and lie is highly gratified when he succeeds in doing either,
                        and enjoys it like a child. He says that the reason why he judges the English women so
                        severely is, that, being brought up with certain principles, they are doubly to blame in
                        not making their conduct accord with them; and that, while punishing with severity the
                        transgressions of persons of their own sex in humble positions, they look over the more
                        glaring misconduct and vices of the rich and great&#8212;that not the crime, but its
                        detection, is punished in England, and, to avoid this, hypocrisy is added to want of
                        virtue. </p>

                    <p xml:id="no.VIII-24"> &#8220;<q>You have heard, of course, (said <persName key="LdByron"
                                >Byron</persName>,) that I was considered mad in England; my most intimate friends
                            in general, and <persName key="LyByron">Lady Byron</persName> in particular, were of
                            this opinion; but it did not operate in my favour in their minds, as they were not,
                            like the natives of eastern nations, disposed to <pb xml:id="LBVIII.153"/> pay honour
                            to my supposed insanity or folly. They considered me a <hi rend="italics"
                                    ><foreign>mejnoun</foreign>,</hi> but would not treat me as one. And yet, had
                            such been the case, what ought to excite such pity and forbearance as a mortal malady
                            that reduces us to more than childishness‚&#8212;a prostration of intellect that places
                            us in the dependence of even menial hands? Reason (continued
                            <persName>Byron</persName>) is so unreasonable, that few can say that they are in
                            possession of it. I have often doubted my own sanity; and, what is more, wished for
                            insanity&#8212;anything&#8212;to quell memory, the never-dying worm that feeds on the
                            heart, and only calls up the <hi rend="italics">past</hi> to make the <hi
                                rend="italics">present</hi> more insupportable. Memory has for me <q>
                                <lg xml:id="LBVIII.153-a">
                                    <l> &#8216;the vulture&#8217;s ravenous tooth,</l>
                                    <l> The raven&#8217;s funereal song.&#8217;</l>
                                </lg>
                            </q> There is one thing (continued <persName>Byron</persName>) that increases my
                            discontent, and adds to the rage that I often feel against self. It is the conviction
                            that the events in life that have most pained me&#8212;that have turned the milk of my
                            nature into gall&#8212;have not depended on the persons who tortured me,&#8212;as I
                            admit the causes were inadequate to the effects:&#8212;it was my own nature, prompt to
                            receive painful impressions, and to retain them with a painful tenacity, that supplied
                            the arms against my peace. Nay, more, I believe the wounds inflicted were not, for the
                            most part, premeditated; or, if so, that the extent and profundity of them were not
                            anticipated by the persons who aimed them. There are some natures that have a
                            predisposition to grief, as others have to disease; and such was my case. The causes
                            that have made me wretched would probably not lave discomposed, or, at least, more than
                            discomposed, another. We are all differently organized; and that I feel <hi
                                rend="italics">acutely</hi> is no more my fault (though it is my misfortune) than
                            that another feels not, is his. We did not make ourselves; and if the elements of
                            unhappiness abound more in the nature of one man than another, he is but the more
                            entitled to our pity and forbearance. Mine is a nature (continued
                                <persName>Byron</persName>) that might have been softened and ameliorated by
                            prosperity, but that has been hardened and soured by adversity. Prosperity and
                            adversity are the fires by which moral chemists try and judge human nature; and how few
                            can pass, the ordeal! Prosperity corrupts, and adversity renders ordinary nature
                            callous; but when any portion of excellence exists, neither can injure. The first will
                            expand the heart, and show forth every virtue, as the genial rays of the sun bring
                            forth the fruit and flowers of the earth; and the second will teach sympathy for
                            others, which is best learned in the school of affliction.</q>&#8221; </p>

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